Viola Advance to Knockout Stages of Champions League

By: Ted | November 24th, 2009

Wayyyyyyyy back in September, after Fiorentina lost its first Champions League group mach (to Lyon) I posted this, which can still be found in the archives:

Finally: Do I think we’re done in the CL? Probably. It’s tough to see us advancing, but of course it can still be done. We need to beat Lyon in Florence, take care of business vs. the underdogs, and get something from Liverpool. If we do that, we can still be okay. But make no mistake: we have an uphill battle on our hands.

I’m not posting this now because I think I’m prescient, or to mock my obvious doubtfulness. First of all, we all knew what HAD to be done, and most of us were probably pretty concerned about our ability to do it. I am instead posting it because tonight I think we as fans can all share a sense of “mission accomplished,” the idea that our team set a very difficult task before it, and achieved that task. Think about it. Put yourself in that position after matchday one. If I had told you that by matchday five we would not only be leading the group, but would also have a good chance to win it, what would you think? I imagine what little is left of my credibility would have vanished.

And yet here we are. Tonight everyone in the football world seems to be talking about us, and it is nice. We have made everyone forget about Henry’s handball for five minutes. Tonight’s win has allowed the team to take another step towards once again becoming a “big” club in Europe, and has further cemented the Great Man’s status as an equally great manager. Tonight, like so many other nights, I wish I was in beautiful Florence once again.

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Over the coming days you’re going to hear a lot about matchday six, the game in Liverpool, and winning the group. I do think it is a very winnable match. We have everything to play for, and Liverpool, well, doesn’t. I’m pretty sure they’re also not dying to do Lyon any favors. But, while I would like to see us win the group (and get in the “1-seed” group) I’m not going to spend a ton of time worrying about it. The way I see it, we’re now in the last sixteen of the Champions League. We’re going to be playing someone good. Yeah, if we can avoid Barca and Manchester United, fine. But every team at this stage can play. And remember this, which I said after the first Liverpool match: If we play like we did in the first half of that game for 90 minutes, we can beat anybody. ANYBODY. You name the team. Its just a question of putting it together for a full game against a quality opponent. Easy? Of course not. But it is possible. We saw it for 45 minutes vs. Liverpool.

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Scattered thoughts from the match itself:

• If you had told me back in September that while winning our group we would beat Lyon without our two best creative players (Mutu and My Precious) and our best defender (Gamberini) I would have REALLY, REALY thought you were nuts.

• I know in every recap I always write some variation of “Jesus, Frey was a BEAST today,” but Christ, Frey was an Animal out there tonight. If we win the Champions league they should probably give him two medals. Just because.

• I was just crazy about the way De Silvestri played today. I thought he ran like a dog, was a real threat on the wings, and played smart on defense. I want to see more of him after tonight.

• Kroldrup looks like a counter man working the overnight shift of a gas station with that ridiculous wispy mustache of his, but he and the Captain kept ‘em out tonight, so he gets mentioned in the recaps. Now get back to pouring slurpies.

• If Santana’s shot off the woodwork had gone in, it would have been one of the five prettiest Viola goals I had ever seen.

• Were the British announcers actually wearing Liverpool shirts as they called the match, or did they just go with the scarves?

• I’ve been tough on Marchionni in these pages, and he still makes some mind-numbing mental errors, but nicely done tonight.

• And Vargas. Remember when everyone wanted to give him that ‘Trashcan of the Year’ award they give to the biggest bust in Italian football last year? That keeps getting further and further away in our memories.

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That’s all I got for now. It’s late. Sorry about the double preview posts earlier. I just wanted to throw a quick placeholder up, but I didn’t know Timmy was writing his (as usual, excellent) preview post at the same time.

Enjoy tonight, everybody. I doesn’t get much better than this. And to all you Americans reading this, have a safe and happy Thanksgiving this Thursday. I hope you all get to spend it with family. We’ll see you on the weekend, where we have yet another big game coming up.

Forza Viola!



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  • Mike R |  November 26th, 2009 at 9:48 am

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    And wrap your heads around this:

    This is a self portrait of a one Filipino Lippi, drawn at the end of the 15th century…

    http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3002/81315444tz1.jpg

    look familiar to anyone we know?

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  • Brett |  November 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am

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    Thanks for the earlier answer Mike R.

    I’ve seen Monto’s i mean Lippi’s Adoration of the Magi in the Uffizi and it is pretty breathtaking.

    I proud of the guys that stepped up and got the job done when a good amount of our key guys went down. Hopefully we can stay healthy for the rest of the season, but we still need more depth in January. Like what was said earlier, if we score first it would make me very happy.

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  • Bobby |  November 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am

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    i’m loving the press for the viola. yahoo sports’ coverage of football is rather slim, but we are finally getting some love. they have us ranked 8th in the champions league:

    “Fiorentina – Quietly picked its way through Group E and can’t be discounted.”

    in addition, varganimal was their player of the week:

    “Juan Vargas. The Fiorentina star proved to be the difference as the Viola powered past Lyon to confirm its spot in the last 16. Vargas was a constant threat throughout and converted the penalty that was the difference between the sides.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news;_ylt=As3yK0CipsO7jKej6gi4QPEmw7YF?slug=ro-championsleague112709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

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  • Mike B |  November 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am

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    I know its Goal.com but Gamerini is expected to play vs. Inter

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2009/11/26/1649739/alessandro-gamberini-to-return-for-fiorentina-against-inter

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  • Nolan |  November 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am

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    Not surprised at some EPL homerdom from Yahoo, like all American sources they get their info from the British and don’t understand that football doesn’t revolve around merry old England. Props to them for giving us credit though, at least they aren’t as bad as SoccerNet or as I call it PremiershipNet

    Happy Thanksgiving too.

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  • slakas |  November 26th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

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    welll, when the pope called you dint really say no, but i like the architect reference.

    atalanta lost to lummenzane in the coppa lqtm

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  • slakas |  November 26th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

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    gamberini is looking better for the weekend according to reports

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  • Angharad |  November 26th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

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    Whoa, the chinless one has ancestors!

    Just got back from my first Thanksgiving, at a friends. A strange lot, you Yanks. What is the point of cranberries?

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  • Nolan |  November 26th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

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    Oh man cranberries, I just had to write a paper tracing the cranberry industry in Quebec. I now know more about cranberries than I ever wanted to.

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2009/11/27/1650366/fiorentinas-juan-vargas-set-to-be-monitored-by-top-european

    I swear they just loves printing the same stories over and over again and somehow people don’t notice. I already thought we rejected Drenthe (thankfully, because he’s garbage)

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  • Nolan |  November 26th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

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    http://www.elbocon.com.pe/bocon/img.php?w=445&img=fotos/22703620091125233900.jpg
    Speaking of Vargas, here’s his mother…
    “Loco Mio”

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  • Tito |  November 26th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

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    Tomas, Martin is my dad. As far as I know, I don’t have any children; I hope and pray every night that I don’t. Anyways, he’s around. His team is somewhat inexplicably Ajax, so he spends more time following them. Speaking of parents, Nolan, where did you find that picture? The pure yikes factor is off the charts. Also, if my math is right, we stand to make ten million plus euros out of this tournament right now.

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  • Nolan |  November 26th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

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    It was on ViolaNews, from an interview with mama Vargas in El Bolcon, apparently a Peru sports tabloid. Basically she’s proud of him and views his goal as a gift for her birthday. She also doesn’t know if he will stay with Fiorentina, as I’m sure they tried to get the exclusive scoop about his non-existent move to Madrid from her.

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  • Brett |  November 27th, 2009 at 12:22 am

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    I’m so sick of when he or Jo-Jo do something like score a goal or have a good game and then merda.com runs how ALL OF EUROPES after them.

    Or when they kept running that story of how the Romanian coach would never choose Mutu again after he would score for Fiorentina.

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  • Catalogue |  November 27th, 2009 at 4:41 am

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    Have the stopped calling Vargas our defender?

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  • Mike R |  November 27th, 2009 at 8:09 am

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    File this under “a snowballs chance in hell”

    The Cowardly Lyon wants Gila

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  • Nolan |  November 27th, 2009 at 9:23 am

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    People still think the Cecchi Goris are in charge or something and we are borderline bankrupt. We aren’t a rich club by any means but part of the reason we have such a strict wage structure and don’t settle on overpaying for middle of the road talents is so we can afford to not sell everyone after every season…I don’t get why people don’t realize that.

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  • Tomas |  November 27th, 2009 at 9:40 am

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    I was doing a fly-by of the Milan and Juve offside boards. Couple of things:
    - Understandably, they are hopping mad at their overpriced, over-hyped, yet underperforming teams (in Euorpe). For example, I always admired Pirlo’s game, but the tifosi want to run him out on a rail!
    - On the Juve board someone wrote that “Marchioni and Zanetti are probably laughing.”
    - They too are lamenting the lack of quality defenders on their teams, particulary the fullbacks. Someone even mentioned De Silvestri, his athleticism, and wished they would have gotten him instead of us.

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  • Angharad |  November 27th, 2009 at 10:09 am

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    If the media calls Vargas a full-back one more time, I swear to god my head will explode.

    C4: Did you know Vargas is awesome? And a full-back!

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  • Angharad |  November 27th, 2009 at 10:12 am

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    ALSO, the more people talk about Prands replacing Lippi, the more likely my head is to explode. He’s not going to take over Italy! He’s going to stay at Fiorentina! Honestly, why would he leave when he is doing so well? He likes his job!

    C4: Did you know Prandelli is awesome? Which is why he should take over Italy!

    Maybe I should just stop reading news.

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  • Dumitru |  November 27th, 2009 at 11:25 am

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    prandelli isn’t going anywhere. he’s too attached to the club. plus, where will he get that degree of authority? he’ll probably evolve in a ferguson type. in a year or two, we’ll start competing for scudetto.

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  • Mike R |  November 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

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    Vargas to violanews: “The voices of the market don’t bother me, i’m happy in Florence…”

    http://www.violanews.com/news.asp?idnew=47096

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  • Nolan |  November 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

  • Mike R |  November 27th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

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    all he said is that “its natural he’d be considered” and it would be a big achievement…this is typical merda.com overblowing

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  • Catalogue |  November 27th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

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    All Gila said is that it’s natural that Prandelli would be considered. This is sorry journalism.

    I remember awhile back that damned site quotes one of our players (forgot who) claiming that a scudetto in near future would be nice or something. Then they used the title “Player A: Fiorentina Will Win the Scudetto.”

    Naturally the trollish commenters, who didn’t read the details, trumpeted him as a fool.

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  • enrico |  November 29th, 2009 at 1:24 am

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    Simply amazing….I personally hope to find some club from London,Madrid ,other big cities…i live in Nyc and Tuesday I was simply astonished by the performance of la Viola…..let’s try to do finally a big game in Milano vs Inter..pride of Firenze….Forza Viola!De Silvestri got an amazing future ahead…

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